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I suppose it's already been mentioned, but I've been... distracted. I just had flashbacks to Devil's Trap, and it made me think

maybe Dean puts himself in the position to get pulverized by Sam/Lucifer (assuming Lucifer is on board at that point, since I don't think Sam would do that otherwise,) because it took him almost being murderized in Devil's Trap for John to break through. Remember how every time Azazel would start in on Sam, Dean would say something smart and draw him back, and then when it looked like Dean couldnt take anymore, that's when John got through. So, maybe Dean's kind of sacrificing himself so Sam can take control.

That's not to say Lucifer doesn't have plenty of reason to just pulverize him.

And I'm still not sure what good that would do them. If he did help Sam get control, that would only get Lucifer in the cage. Wouldn't explain how Sam gets out.

And I'm not sure I like the whole passive aggressive sacrifice aka yellow crayon moment.

It's just a thought.

Date: 2010-05-11 01:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sexytexanjra.livejournal.com
Ohh, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that! I was thinking the same thing regarding Dean being the one who has been able to pull people out of possession state, his Dad, Bobby, ok it didn't work for Sam last time when Meg had him, but they've been through a lot more now so maybe...

*Shrugs*

Yeah I have no clue how that will help get Sam out of the cage, but it definitely could help him get Lucifer in there. Surely Dean will have something up his sleeve then...maybe!

*crosses fingers*
Edited Date: 2010-05-11 01:38 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-05-11 01:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sexytexanjra.livejournal.com
Ok a bit random and not totally related to your post, but it made me think of it again.

Have you notice how Dean's looks is almost back to how it was in S1. The longer hair, Dad's jacket...don't know if it's significant but, I know Kripke like to give crazy little hints like those, so yeah, maybe Devil's Trap thought are on the right track.

Damn it, well just have to wait and see. I'm so bloody impatient! :D

Date: 2010-05-11 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
Haha, well, it was actually a post someone else made, in which she said that Kripke almost always tells us what's going to happen, that made me remember Dean getting beat to a pulp in Devil's Trap.

I really wouldn't be surprised if that's what's going on there, but I'm not really happy about it, just because I'd like for Dean to realize he's good for something other than always throwing himself in front of the train, ya know?

Date: 2010-05-11 02:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sexytexanjra.livejournal.com
Haha, well, it was actually a post someone else made, in which she said that Kripke almost always tells us what's going to happen, that made me remember Dean getting beat to a pulp in Devil's Trap.

Yeah, I can't remember what triggered if for me...I think it might have been from re-watching Bobby break through, teamed with the boys interaction in the promo.

But yeah, I know what you mean. As much as I love Dean broken, it breaks my heart too that his self-esteem is that low that he thinks that's all he's good for...canon fodder. As much as I know that he just wouldn't be the same Dean if his self-esteem improved, I do long for his character to re-build beyond the bloody broken man behind a mask of bravado that he is now. Doesn't make for as much angst and man-pain for awesome emotional scenes from Jensen though so I won't hold my breath. ;P

Date: 2010-05-11 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heather03nmg.livejournal.com
I like your speculation and I'm hoping it comes true.

And after watching that clip I had a happy fangirl moment when I realized Jensen had shown us those whumped Dean pics on his iphone.

Date: 2010-05-11 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
LOL. Damn you and your meet and greets. :P

I wouldn't be surprised if that does happen, but I don't know that I want Dean's significance always being the guy who has to throw himself in front of the train. But we shall see. :D

Date: 2010-05-11 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heather03nmg.livejournal.com
Dean is the vessel of Heaven. How much more worthwhile can he get?

And whumped Dean makes my heart happy so I'll take my fix any way I can.
Because I'm a bad person.

Date: 2010-05-11 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
In what way is he the vessel of Heaven other than them saying so? I'd like a little more than lip service. *shrugs*

Date: 2010-05-11 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] willow-fae-20.livejournal.com
I didn't even think about Dean wearing John's leather coat again, but he totally is.

I see a lot of truth/possibilities in your thoughts.

Date: 2010-05-11 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
Unfortunately, that's the thing about this season finale. Just about anything is possible. :P

Love that icon. How adorable!

Date: 2010-05-11 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] willow-fae-20.livejournal.com
And you're right about Kripke giving us hints/clues to be able to parse out what's going on.

That's my Kidlet, he's fast becoming my 'fit-spiration' and with the MP3 player I got for Mother's Day it'll be that much easier/more fun to go for walks with him.

Date: 2010-05-11 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
Haha, I see that icon and imagine him singing, "I'm a soul man!" LOL.

Yeah, in hindsight it usually is possible to see exactly where Kripke was pointing us, but I seem always to fail handily at figuring it out before hand. LOL.

Date: 2010-05-11 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] willow-fae-20.livejournal.com
I almost called it 'Big Pimpin' but stopped myself short.

Kripke is a wiley one, isn't he?

Date: 2010-05-11 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mini-moue.livejournal.com
I just want it to end during the finale and not drag over to S6 as a cliffhanger, thereby giving me an aneurism! I already filled up watching the second clip of the ep. Sam and Bobby always kills me...

Date: 2010-05-11 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
I'm so with you there. No cliffie, PLEASE! I sorta watched the two sneak peeks, but I was at work and there was no sound. That was enough for me. LOL.

Date: 2010-05-11 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unplugged32.livejournal.com
I've been going mad trying to come up with plausible scenarios for the finale and I just can't;) PLEASE, PLEASE Kripke, don't disappoint me!!!

Date: 2010-05-11 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
I know. My biggest fear is I'm going to hate the finale and it will register the last five years null and void. I like the emotional stuff, I do, but if there's major plot hate, I'll be so disappinted.

Date: 2010-05-12 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] almightyspaz.livejournal.com
Oh god, the yellow crayon. Yes, you too can save the world from your crazy ass friend by telling them a delightful story from their youth. Maybe I'm just cynical but I always thought that that was lame. But you may be onto something. Honestly, I don't care, boys with big ouchies make me happy

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