Kripke'd? Clarification of Term and Poll....

[ht_murray]

Okay, this is the shortest poll ever, but here's the thing. When I first started reading fic, I kept seeing the term "Jossed," and in the context it was used, I deduced that Jossed meant the canon of the show established by Joss Whedon completely trounced on someone speculation and made their fic AU. I figured the same when I first started seeing the term Kripke'd floating about. That the show canon developed in a way that was unlike the writer's speculations and thus made their fic AU. I assumed it was like something being "trumped" in Euchre.

Lately, I've been seeing Kripke'd being used as a term to assert that the show canon has "copied" a writer's fictional canon, thus making it appear as though the show writers borrowed it from said fic writer or read said writer's mind.

Personally, I'm confused. What do people believe the term Kripke'd means? And where would one go to find out the actual meaning?


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ETA: Because I'm at work and cannot reply to everyone, it would appear that the two words are antonyms. Which leads me to ask A)Why? and B)So what is teh synonym of Jossed? FYI, I will never be able to read them as synoyms, LOL, though it's exactly this confusion which has prevented me from every using the word, though it would appear I've been Kripke'd my fair share of times. And that still doesn't sound right. I think this is one time when maybe the urban dictionary took their defintion from common use rather than actual, but that's my guess.

Oh, and I had to construct this post in about five minutes, so I'm sure there are better ways to word the poll and the answers, but um, read my mind... *sends psychic vibes*

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[smidirini.livejournal.com]

Which leads me to ask A)Why? and B)So what is teh synonym of Jossed?

Well, I think maybe the reason these two guys have been singled out is that it's very clear that they are fully aware of their fanbase. They watch online fandoms and go to events to chat with fans. Beyond that, I'm fairly sure they have both read at least some fan fiction :P I don't care what they say. They're aware of it and there is no way they haven't been curious enough to have a look at some stage!

I think the reason Jossed became so widely used is basically because the story of Buffy went completely off the rails after season 3. They were clearly navigating uncharted waters without a map. I don't think that they were thinking beyond high school when the show was concieved.

Hell, Joss even Jossed himself on more than one occasion - most notably by introducing a little sister called Dawn who had not existed in canon before, thus pretty much negating all previous canon. :p

Meanwhile over on the Supernatural ranch... Kripke so far seems to have a plan. Is it a good plan? I don't know, but he seems to know where he is going for the series finale and this has led to fairly consistent characterisation thus far.

Another interesting thing is that in the Buffyverse, at least in my memory of it, most of the fics written were set some time chronologically after the pilot. In Supernatural a lot of fics are set in the past, exploring the Winchester history.

Since there are plenty of allusions to past events in the canon material it's easy to 'get it right' than if you are trying to write about things in the future. I mean, considering that many future fics in SPN have Sam dying, some have Dean dying, some have them both living, both dying... it's pretty clear that a good few of them are going to get Jossed by the end of the show but for now they're safe :P