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And probably get defriended, but it doesn't matter, since it seems like everyone's leaving for DW anyway.

It seems to me like the photo ops from earlier cons had more stringent rules about what was and was not inappropriate contact. It's only been the last few cons where the poses and interaction have been getting really snuggly and somewhat more intimate.

I think it's great that the guys, and Jensen in particular are more comfortable with fans now and that they're willing to be hugged and snuggled up with, and I get that people pay for the photo tickets and want the same experience other fans have had.

But seriously, no one is entitled to get to touch the guests. You get a picture. And if there's one thing I've had beaten into my head from years and years of working in manufacturing, it's that nothing bad ever happens when you're wary and cautious. It's when you start to get comfortable and let down your guard that something happens. Best case scenario, someone gets their feel on, worst case... well, I don't even want to say. If you don't want people to build a bomb, you don't put the instructions on the internetz, yes?

I don't blame her at all, and I don't think for a minute that she did what she did because she hates his fans.

And that's all I'm going to say. Keep the wank to a dull roar and out of my space.

P.S.: If you don't know what I'm talking about, don't ask.

Date: 2009-04-19 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kj-svala.livejournal.com
well, look who`s talking *points towards self*

the way I see this, each Con is different, each has its own, hmm, feeling.

You know how the Chicago Con went down, eps. when it comes with Photo Ops. At that time, I didn`t dare to even touch Jensen, although he did it himself sometimes, asked for it or not.
I didn`t ask, I didn`t do anything in Chicago. I just went in, said "hi", picture, done, next.

In LA, things where different. In LA there was a Jensen who did a 180 degree turn, compared to Chicago 08.

All smiling, cracking jokes, laughing. Laughing about himself, and others. Pulling funny faces. Even at the breakfast already, althoug he confessed he overslept that day.

So the LA Photo Ops was, different. The entiere Con itself, was different, esp. compared to other SPN Cons.

Actually it was what I was used too from Stargate and Farscape Cons, esp from those Cons held in California. California is always different, for whatever the reason.

For me, I can feel it if something isn`t allowed, or if something is wrong to ask for.

like in Chicago. I thought he doesn`t feel this comfortable, so I held back. I`m not one to jump someone in the first place myself.

In LA, everyone was "what the hell, lets do this".

and they said "NO way" also more than one time. So, everyone only does what they want to do.

I was more than happy to see Danneel in LA. I was too shy myself to actually talk to her. This I regret, because she seemed so lost during the autograph session.
I can see why she wants to spend as much time with Jensen as possible.

if she really was around during the Sydney Photo ops, was it a wise move to do so? I don`t know.

Asylum 3 is going to be another Con, a different Country, new rules.

I go with these "Con feeling " rules at A3. I`m already happy I can take a closer look at this pair of green eyes again. This is all that I need to make me happy *rofl*

I would not mind having her around during the A3 Photo Ops, not at all.

Doesn`t matter if the Girlfriend, wife or whatever is around or not. At the end the boys only do what they want to do at that particular time anyway.

As well as everyone else, SPN actor, or not. No one does something they feel uncomfortable with.

jeez *stares at novel* what did I want to say?

*hugs you, runs*

Date: 2009-04-19 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
Hehe, I love to read your novels. And I know you go to these things all the time, so I'm really glad you weighed in.

I think, as others have said, there must have been something that happened the day before. She didn't just get upset because, "OMG, they're touching my baby." And it does seem like the fans get "cheekier" as more of these things come around. Part of that is getting to see the videos and feeling like we've done it before, even if we really haven't. I would not be surprised at all if something did happen to make him uncomfortable and she just stood by her man. I could, of course, be completely wrong, because no one knows her side of the story, which is why people should not be jumping on her. I mean, really, "evil"? And this from fans with extremely questionable behavior themselves. It makes me sad. Sigh.

*glomps you* I hope you have a ton of fun at A3 and get great pics. I haven't had a chance to look at all the ones from LA, but I loved what I saw. Hee!

Date: 2009-04-19 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kj-svala.livejournal.com
I also don`t think it was because of her. Not only because of the "new storie" which is around, but in general.
Jensen is a grown up, as well as Jared, and everyone else. They don`t do stuff, esp. during Photo ops, they don`t want to do, simple as that.

I`ve done a lot of Cons, all sorts of fandoms, and I`ve never before experienced something like with the SPN Cons. Some people are plain crazy. Everything that has happened after LA, because of Danneel, this made me feel so sorry for not only her, but Jensen also.

In LA we had a blast. I`ve never laughed so much during a Photo Ops session as in LA. And a huge reason why had been both, Jared and Jensen.
Everyone was so relaxed and easy going, I just had to grab the chance to bag the pictures I wanted to have. Everyone was just, haha, lets do this, who cares.

but at the end, if they don`t want to do certain things, they don`t do it. And it is easy to blame someone like Danneel when things don`t turn out as people thought they would.

I KNOW because they have been the way they where in LA, it might not be the case at A3 also.

Different Con.

I`ve never had a Con myself where the "don`t touch" rule was applied, but it has happend before. Not SPN, but still.

I always have the Stargate Cons in mind, Creation and Wolfevents, which might be a mistake on my side. Because at the SG Cons everyone is more than open, and doesn`t spend a 2nd thought about anything.
They don`t kiss during Photo ops, or lift people up. Beside this, you can do pretty much everything. But with SPN, things seem to be different, for whatever the reason.

IMO people freak out because of J², and then afterwards are dissapointed because they let an opportunity slip away.

A friend of mine was in Sydney, and what little she told in her journal so far, esp. because of her Photo ops with Jensen, combined with the new story, this makes me think it wasn`t Danneel but maybe Jared who was responsible, with reason *!!!* for the don`t touch rule.

So Danneel is an easy target, again, and certain people felt the need to jump her again.

And even if she was a reason why, who cares. These are real people, with real feelings, and everyone has to respect that.
Is it unfair for those who bought the tickets? up to certain amount, yes. If she can not take people touching her boy, stay away, simple as that.
At the end of the day he`ll be with her again anyway.

All of this reminds me, again, why I want to stay under the radar inside the SPn fandom. As much as possible.

A3, I really hope the Con will turn out okay. Jeez, 1400 tickets sold, no reserved seats *eek* And I take my boy also. He has never been to the UK before, never has been at a Con with this many people around.

I try my best with taking pictures at A3 *g*

and I have a lot more form LA wich I still have to upload and post.

*hugs you, again*

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