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Hmmm, seems like there's some drama over on [livejournal.com profile] padacklesrps. And if I'm brutally honest, from reading the threads, the drama is coming from the members, NOT the new mods. The mods are just trying to do their job and make things easier for everyone. I dunno. I see a lot of new RPS comms popping up, and I'm just using this opportunity to say, I'm not migrating to any of them. I know none of you care, but seriously, even the "proposed" changes to the comm are not nearly as strict as most of the other comms I post on. I don't get where people think anarchy is better.

I am a member of [livejournal.com profile] padacklesrps, [livejournal.com profile] super_real, and [livejournal.com profile] cw_rps, not to mention, [livejournal.com profile] jsquared_rps which has moderated submissions for crying out loud. How many more do people need?

And that's not even to mention [livejournal.com profile] supernaturalfic which I regularly bitch about but still recognize as the best place to post if you want to be seen, and they totally allow any kind of fic.

People are just leaving a bad taste in my mouth about all of this. Maybe I should stop eating people...

*shakes head*

ETA: In light of recent events that came about after this post was made, I will not be staying with [livejournal.com profile] padacklesrps but I maintain that I will not be joining the hundred or so other comms sprouting up in its wake.

Date: 2009-04-11 02:32 pm (UTC)
ext_7856: (Dean WTF?)
From: [identity profile] larienelengasse.livejournal.com
It is kind of crazy what's been going on. Those poor mods had no friggin idea what they were walking into when they took that on.

Date: 2009-04-11 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
I know. I've been wishing someone would mod that comm forever. I once posted a pre-J2 fic in there and got anonymously flamed by someone who did not want anything other than J2 paired up. (Actually, it was obvious she just hated Misha, cuz she called him something like "buttface" ) But anyway, I would not have posted that fic if I had not read the rules to figure out if it was okay. It boggles my mind how many people have probably never been to the userinfo page of that comm.

*shakes head sadly*

Date: 2009-04-11 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maboheme.livejournal.com
Exactly. So glad you said this. It seems a lot of unnescessary wank, and I in no way thought the new mods were being too harsh. I feel so bad for the poor kid who stepped up to mod. That damn community needs moderation.

Honestly, there are too many damn repetitive communities in this fandom and it's so annoying -- I'm a member of a bunch, but I stopped watching them long ago. Honestly whenever I do get around to writing or having time to read something, I post to/check just padacklesrps and the newsletter. Beyond that, I don't bother.

Sigh.

Hey hon! Just now got to check my flist and was so happy to see a post from you! *smishes you*

Date: 2009-04-11 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
Awwww, *squishes* I'm happy to see you, too. Seems like everyone I know is on hiatus or posting when I'm not around to comment. There's a huge disconnect.

I don't watch any fic comms except [livejournal.com profile] deancastiel and [livejournal.com profile] jsquared_rps. I don't know why I watch the first one since I haven't read anything posted there, fic wise, but I was trying to stay up on that part of fandom. And the other I just forgot to click on "don't watch" when I joined it. LOL. Like you, I can find anything I want on the newsletter. I didn't even know this was going on until I saw all these new comms popping up and read a few posts about it.

How are you?

Date: 2009-04-11 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maboheme.livejournal.com
I am good, but still ridiculously busy with RL drama. Fandom-wise, the hiatus from fandom has been so good for me. Seems like a bunch of folk are on break -- definitely deserved. I'm just waiting to see how the season ends so that I can release my breath and just be at one with show, lol. I felt like once upon a time fandom helped me to enjoy the show, but nowadays I enjoy it more when I'm not around the loud, petty noise of fandom, you know?

As for the padacklesrps drama, from what I saw of the first couple of posts from the mod, I thought she was a lot tamer than I'd be. I would have just gone up and made the changes and made the announcements and been done, lol. Poor kid got side-smashed. And mostly I do think it's like a rivalry thing -- people are mad they weren't appointed the mod.

I just ignored the new comms -- I sort of hate comms that start as grudge communities on principal, so when I saw all the new comms popping up, I said, what's the point? *shakes head*

I think the newsletter and spn_themes, crackimpala and the newsletter are the only SPN comms I actually watch. Random, yes.

*hugs you tight*

Date: 2009-04-11 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
We do all deserve a break. I feel a little sad that it feels like my only connection to a lot of my friends is fic and the comments on fic. But emotions are running so high this season, that really, I often prefer not to know what someone's opinion about the show is or about a character, because I'm likely to get upset or defensive for no other reason than just not agreeing. I don't know how I can agree to disagree on most things that apparently matter, but when it comes to fandom things... very, very, difficult.

There have been a ton of communities popping up. I feel like my needs are met just fine with what's already available. But that's just my opinion, I guess.

P.S. Is there any fic writing going on during this hiatus of yours?

Date: 2009-04-11 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starweather.livejournal.com
I feel so BAD for the mods. Everyone's giving them all this unnecessary shit. Is it really so hard to take a step back and rephrase your sentence so it doesn't sound like you think the other person completely lacks a brain? Or that you don't want to chop their heads off?

That comm NEEDS moderation. I'm glad someone's doing it. But I wish that people would just back off and let them. It's nice enough that they're encouraging feedback from everyone, there's no need to leap down their throats.

Date: 2009-04-11 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
I agree with you so much. I really wonder if people aren't just a little butthurt that they didn't think to report it to LJ Abuse themselves. I know that's probably not the case, but the comments do sound more like wounded pride than actual feedback. (and I didn't even get to read all the ones that got deleted in the earlier posts)

To be honest, if I was taking over, I'd probably be a lot more heavy-handed than they are. But I'm a bitch. LOL.


Date: 2009-04-11 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starweather.livejournal.com
They do, actually. It's a lot of stuff like badly disguised disgust at the mods and I CAN DO THIS SO MUCH BETTER THAN YOU. Which I hate, because if you want to do it I'm pretty sure you can contact one of them and they will gladly make arrangements for you to help out.

There are people just making life hell for them. I saw absolutely nothing wrong with the first modpost that they made - and like you said, I would have actually been a lot more heavyhanded - and yet people felt the need to fling insults and get pissed, and not only that, take it to the next post and carry on the fight.

Which is why I'm so spiteful of the new communities. I don't think they're there out of necessity; it feels like they're just there to spite the mods and be like, OH, WE THOUGHT YOU WERE SHIT SO WE'RE GONNA DO IT BETTER.

I don't even watch a lot of RPS comms anymore. I'm membered to them so I can post my fic, but when it comes to watching them - I get the good stuff through my flist.

Date: 2009-04-11 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
I don't even watch a lot of RPS comms anymore. I'm membered to them so I can post my fic, but when it comes to watching them - I get the good stuff through my flist.

This, exactly.

I hardly ever watch comms. I have an flist for a reason. People I know and expect to behave with some semblance of common sense and respect. I don't have a guarantee of anything when watching comms, especially if they're unmoderated.

What I found really sad was that the new mod commented in one of the threads that a lot the "big" members had left because of her post. I so wanted to reply and say, "Oh, no, if they left because of that post, they were never big." But since the comments were deleted I had no idea who I'd be talking about. Also, I feel a little hypocritical lately, because I have never been a proponent of elitism in fandom but I still almost exclusively read my tried and true favorite authors. A lot of people that are coming popular now just don't excite me the way writers did when I first came here. I'm certainly not going to follow them to another comm.

And I'll most likely have to delete half that comment. LOL.

Date: 2009-04-11 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starweather.livejournal.com
This whole thing with this comm makes me want to be a comm-hermit and stop watching/being a member of all of them. Seriously, it's like high school politics - it's so bloody petty and it drives me up the wall.

I'm not big on elitism either, but there are authors I will and won't read. And I don't read most a lot of stuff that's been churned out by people who aren't on my flist, or written by people who haven't been in this fandom long, simply because - like you mentioned - they just don't intrigue me the way my favourite authors do. I think it comes down to subject matter, too, as well as the style and quality of writing. I'm lucky in that I get to be friends with a lot of my favourite authors, so I get a good amount of fic from my flist.

I think, in a way, this fandom is expanding to the point where everyone writes, and not all of it is good stuff. So I don't bother digging through everything to look for whatever is worth reading. And that's horrible of me, probably, but unfortunately that's how it works.

Date: 2009-04-11 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-o-r-h-a-e-l.livejournal.com
Please don't eat me. :)

Date: 2009-04-11 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
But you're so yummy! nomnomomnomnom

Date: 2009-04-11 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] its-symphonic.livejournal.com
I can't really comment on the drama, I don't watch that comm or many fic comms.
But I have noticed a lot of comms, there seems to be a TON of SPN comms.

Personally if I am wanting to read some fic I will go surf around the SPNficfinders, and see what people are looking for and if it sounds interesting I will read it.

The comms you listed seems to be a good selection of comms to get a good all-around group of major fics from the fandom.

Date: 2009-04-12 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
Yeah, I don't read much anymore, and I mostly only stay members so that I can post to them. There hasn't been an active mod over there for a very long time, and the troll posts and off topic spam were annoying people, I guess.

Anyway, I changed my mind about staying there. They ran off the new mod and brought in some others. At this point, it's kind of a joke. I'm sad it didn't turn out better.

But yes, I won't be joining a lot of new comms. There are already plenty of good ones. *smoosh*

Date: 2009-04-11 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captcrashsc.livejournal.com
I wanted to comment to one person in particular who jumped on the new mods and said "I'm leaving cause you like...being Hitler" or some such, but I realized it wasn't going to make things better by pointing out that was a rather harsh comment.

Then again, I've been kicked out of communities for not commenting enough on a fic or for giving *gasp* feedback the author didn't like. She asked for constructive criticism, I gave some helpful ideas. But then I got yelled at and booted because she felt her writing was perfect the way it was. Okay, so just say you'd like us all to commence ass-kissing instead of saying you'd like feedback, constructive concrit. But that's neither here nor there.

Completely off topic, but I had the strangest dream about you last night. My father and I were apparently on a road trip to somewhere in New England and it turned into me driving to meet you and the hubby at your big fancy art studio turned house in Maine. Y'all were really famous for doing huge water color landscapes.

o.O

I think someone slipped wacky weed into my antibiotic...lol.

Date: 2009-04-12 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
OMG, I read that dream of yours to Dan, and he laughed. We'll send you some more wacky weed, lol.

As for the comm. I decided to leave after all. I was okay with new rules and whatnot, but not with the announcement of new mods. It seems a little like I'm in the lame duck party over there now. *is sad*

Date: 2009-04-11 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vanae.livejournal.com
I was happy to see someone take over the community. I like the idea of less spam and whatnot and a tag system wouldn't be half-bad either. I really do not get what all the craziness is about. I think the new mods have been very forthcoming and open about how to best run things and people are giving them shit for just being there. Why not just comment with some input and then thank them for caring enough to put in the time and work it takes to mod a community like this. Sometimes I swear people are just being difficult for the sake of it... It's really beyond me why we must wank about every little thing.

Date: 2009-04-12 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
You see what happens when I go away for the rest of the day and then come back to answer comments? Things change. I had to edit this post, because I decided to leave, after all. Ugh. I really used to love that comm, too. *is sad*

If the first mod had stayed on, I'd have supported any decisions he made, but now there's a whole new group. There are other places to post, I guess. *glomps you*

Date: 2009-04-12 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vanae.livejournal.com
Wha? It's already been turned over again? Why? Nevermind. I liked the first one too, though, things seems to be getting more confusing and complicated than necessary.

Date: 2009-04-11 06:53 pm (UTC)
ext_33390: (Default)
From: [identity profile] darkmerrick.livejournal.com
I know, I don't understand why people got all pissed off either. I much prefer when there's a mod keeping things in line.

Date: 2009-04-12 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
LOL. I don't get it either. I was actually fine with the new mod until, well, he left... I had to edit this post. What a difference a day makes. LOL.

Date: 2009-04-11 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apieceofcake.livejournal.com
I read a few of the comments and that was enough for me. Peeps are just never satisfied..always something to complain about..that and the spitting out of their dummies *er*

Date: 2009-04-12 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
LOL, at "the spitting out of their dummies." hahahahahaha.

Ah, well, the drama continues. I finally did leave. Had to edit my post and everything. *is stoopid*

Date: 2009-04-12 12:57 am (UTC)
ext_35214: (Default)
From: [identity profile] munibunny.livejournal.com
My comment got eaten by lj! *shakes fist at it*

Anyway, it's probably for the best. I commented once that things will calm down after people get the hang of things and it probably already has.

I wanted to tell you, though. There's one really fun comm you should check out: [livejournal.com profile] imissyourmusk. I joined a whole bunch recently but a couple of them are, well... er... not to my liking, I guess. I never would have known that if I hadn't given them a try, though. This one is buckets of fun. Not just fic, but art and other things as well. :D

Date: 2009-04-12 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
Ooh, I'll have to check that one out, though I don't know if there's any point in me joining, since I don't really watch many comms at all, and most of them are non-fandom. I mostly just watch users. Thanks for pointing it out.

Date: 2009-04-12 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 9thof9.livejournal.com
I know this was a serious post but... you cracked me up with "People are just leaving a bad taste in my mouth about all of this. Maybe I should stop eating people..." And let me tell ya, I need the laugh.

Also, no I'm not dead just on a hiatus. I took a page out of your book and just stepped away from fandom for a while. I'm not ready to come back full strength yet but I do keep an eye on a filtered down flist. You're there of course because I love ya!

On a serious note regarding what's going on at [Bad username or site: @ livejournal.com], I think it stems from peoples' entitlement issues. I'm running into that everywhere at the moment. Fandom, the club, the supermarket and church. (That's the one that gets me the most.)

It's like everyone expects things to be their way and when it's not they are not happy. I know this from both sides of the line too. I did my own bit of feeling entitled not that long ago. I got nothing out of it but a couple of laughs and less fanfic to read. Live and learn as they say.

Date: 2009-04-12 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tru-faith-lost.livejournal.com
I'm always glad to make you laugh, sweetie. I be missing ya. Though, if I'm honest, I haven't been on IM lately, either.

I feel stoopid now, cuz I ended up leaving anyway. They ran off the new mod and appointed a few of their own. I don't know that I can condone that behavior, and it's not like I don't have plenty of other comms to post in. *le sigh*

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